Remove spark plug(s) and pour about 1 oz. I have a 1998 518xi. The mag(s) then fire if they are functional. As I was tinkering with the wiring (the previous owner was no electrician nor apprentice) this is a wiring nightmare! With that thought,since no spark appears with or without the spark advancer, the unit may be faulty. You must log in or register to reply here.  find out why the power goes through one minute and not the next. It may not be the cause of our problem but it's not right . This will fry both mag coils almost instantaneously. Fuel Filter. Disconnect the spark plug lead(s). Are the battery and regulator/rectifier good? Hey guys as said I have a kohler horizontal shaft 22hp engine that I can't get spark out of. However, the electronics don't monitor the seat switch for starting purposes. With that thought ,since no spark appears with or without the spark advancer, the unit may be faulty. Thanks for the schematics.  They are a little different from the ones my fix-it friend and I were looking at because the ignition coils have two wires PLUS the spark plug wire. If neither fire, the SAM appears the likely culprit. Nothing. Thread starter Jimma; Start date Dec 11, 2012; Jimma. I checked to see if I had spark, used the spark plug tester and on one side there was spark and the other had none. I'm assuming that if the SEE test does not produce a spark, the spark advance unit is required. I was hoping to get a spark at the plug but that didn't happen. I'll repair the intermitant power problem at the fuse block first. Select Engine Series or Model My next thought was is there a short in the  spark advancer, since the kill switch wire also goes into the  unit as well. Checked points and they are at .020 no … Will pass along the kill switch information (thanks) and ask about any reading he might want. The Kohler SH265 engine, 6.5hp, on my Countyline 25-ton splitter will not start, it sat up for months. 51. This indicates an ignition coil … and tried to fire it up with no luck. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. EASY START • Starts like your car—just turn the key and go • No-choke starting whether it’s hot or cold or ... ‡L = blower housing to air cleaner cover W = spark plug to spark plug H = top of air cleaner cover to mounting surface ECV630 ECH650 ECV730. Scag SW-48 With Kohler command 14 Has no spark. Twice now it has failed to start due to no spark. When no spark appeared I rechecked the gap and tried again. I have a craftsman lawn tractor with an 18HP Kohler twin, model M18S. fuse holder issues are not unusual on 5xx series. Check Spark Plug Every 200 hours of operation, remove the spark plug, check its condition, and reset the gap or replace with a new plug as necessary. Manuals and User Guides for Kohler Command PRO ECV740. http://www.kohlerengines.com/manuals/landing.htm. Bob, if you have removed any possibilty the mags are grounded (by removing the KILL wire at the mags). Unless........ something like a kill signal from the oil pressure sensor sends a kill signal to the SAM module. I took it to 2 mechanics, they could not figure it out. Regardless, Bob states he has a 99, and he has removed the KILL wires from the mags. Have tried to tighten the plug clamps inside the boots? The dang spark plug wire that attaches to the end of the spark plug has a metal sheath over it. 53. $13.00. I scanned the pages from my Kohler manual for the smart spark, see attached.  Sorry for the page orientation, the manual is a bound book and would only go one way into the scanner. I don't believe the KILL signal comes into or goes thru the SAM. I then pulled the spark plug out and grounded it to see if I can see the color of the spark, but no spark either side. I called around and I was told that I needed to replace the Speed Advance Module. More delay at low RPMS = easier starting, less delay / more advance at higher RPM = potentially more power. However, not unlike all engines in this class, problems do occur. Some of the newer engines use a SMART SPARK system or even VARIABLE TIMING systems. Both coils and plugs. while trying to figure out what wire went where and what wire did what, I guess I wiggled something loose, again no spark! It is the cover at the top of the engine. Sign up for a new account in our community. Wish me luck!! 27HP kohler loses spark and then comes back for no reason. The intermittent  power at the main fuse causes all 3 relays to make a clicking sound. I am pretty sure he said there was a "black box" with wires leading to the coils.  Could this be a Speed Advance Module?  If so, is there a way to check it as there is still no spark with the new coils installed. Dec 11, 2012. Took off the fly wheel and all the magnets were in place, next I checked the Stator to see if it was bad.. leads was not grounding out. In checking for spark, I have no spark at either of the new plug with both of them grounded to the block. 1. E-10 or E15 Ethanol might be bad for your truck mount engine. My next step is find out how the spark advance module is powered. and tried to fire it up with no luck. Pretty interesting how all of this stuff is interconnected.  And to think we only purchased it to cut the grass, we weren't going to the moon! Grab an online service manual to confirm which system you are working with. Replace spark plug(s) and JavaScript is disabled. My friend is away at a 93 birthday party for his aunt this weekend but I'll pass this along when he is back. After installing everything and letting the fuel pump cycle through to prime the system, the motor will turn over but will NOT start. I then reinstalled the kill switch and tried it again. Once again my fix-it guy has responded as follows: Think I got the fuse box back together cause the dash lights stay on now and I'm getting a steady clicking sound under the steering wheel. By the time I fiddle with ignition switch and safety switch to see if something is not making There was no spark on the whole system. I wasn't sure if the spark advance module was required to energize the coils so I hooked up the wire from the  spark advance to the coils (wide friction clip ). Any help guys?  Winter is approaching and I really need to get my snowblower mounted. Kohler 15hp engine-no spark Original Message Oct 21, 2007 7:15 pm Please help!!! Called my friend who is way more mechanical than me.  When he looked at it he said it would be best to get  it into his shop and he would try to work on it between other jobs. It's a Kohler CH 26 with EFI. If the mag modules have more than one push on terminal, they are likely SMART SPARK or work under variable timing. Have you confirmed it's got a good ground?Â. My next step is find out how the spark advance module is powered. I did a bit of digging into what powers this unit and it looks like the power comes from the key switch, I did find  a poor connection at the fuse block at the main fuse. I double checked the gap at the mags and the connections that go to them. J. Jimma ArboristSite Operative. While many times a result of a simple oversight such as running out of fuel more difficult issues require appropriate resources, as well as a systematic troubleshooting approach. Spark Plugs; Spindles; ... Command Pro Twin Ch Cv17 25 Ch Cv620 750 ... Kohler Cv730 Parts Lookup by Model Search for Your Kohler Model Enter your Kohler model number below. since both "FIRE" wires on the mags are color coded BROWN, they are most likely interchangeable. When I installed the new coils I did the SEE test, which is spining the flywheel past the coils to see if a spark is produced. Bigboost New Member. It sat for a couple years. I have tested all and I know that there is no spark is my problem. The circuit in the Toro demystication guide for the 1998 522xi shows the seat switch is not monitored for kill purposes. I'm going to take it off and find out why the power goes through one minute and not the next. This also did not produce a spark. So the other day, I was replaced the coupler, rebuilt the carb. Genuine Kohler ASAM Ignition Module Conversion Kit For 22 hp or 23 hp engine spec # 66XXX, 67XXX, 76XXX 24 755 307-S - 24755307-S, Free Shipping, No Tax. It has a 27hp vertical shaft Kohler command engine. $54.99. I thought the spark plugs went bad so I bought 2 to replace, but again no spark. Dec 11, 2012 #1 I have a vermeer stump grinder that seems very temporamental & can't figure it out. you have confirmed 12 volts available to the SAM module when it is cranking. A reading of "1" indicates complete resistance, or no connectivity. The ignition coil doesn't frequently develop problems, but the connection between the flywheel and coil or between the starting pulley and flywheel can wear out, and the coil may not … $6.50 shipping. (only way to really check continuity!) 1972 Commando 800 4 speed Im getting no spark to plug on K181S spec# 30461D Serial # 4089559 The motor turns over but with plug out resting on head there is no spark. Kohler ch22 no spark help! I would like to find out if that second wire has any thing to do with the  spark at the plug. Joined Sep 15, 2008 Messages 194 Location rockland, ma. 691 sold. I have an inline spark tester and I have good spark when the engine is cold, I got the engine to run for 1/2 hour and ran out of gas. Model No. buckhornbob, November 9, 2013 in Wheel Horse Electrical, I recently bought a 1999 Wheel Horse 522xi - Model #73560, Serial # 8901636. Tried another coil and condenser still nothing. Can anyone shed any light for us?  I am the computer guy and my friend is the mechanical guys so if you need clarification on what has been done, please ask. This wouldn't be the first mystery made deeper by the demystification guide. Small Engine Spark Plug. Filled the tank and now hot there is no spark… So the other day, I was replaced the coupler, rebuilt the carb. The model # is 917.288611 and the engine is a 26 hp kohler engine with the courage pro name on it. It would be very helpful to know if there is a way to test these coils when there are not mounted on the engine. Per the schematic below, the PTO needs to be disengaged and the BRAKE safety switch ON. I have a 15 .5 hp kohler single cylinder, verticle engine model CV15S that does not have spark.----- The system seems to have only 2 parts the magnets that bolt onto the flywheel and the coil which goes dirrectly to the spark plug. Your kill wire may be shorted to ground - which would "kill" the spark output from both coils at the same time. So far I can't get power out of the spark advance unit. 51. Will let you know how I make out. I'm thinking its the rectifier. Listen up. One day it was running just fine and the next day it would turn over like crazy but would not start.  I tried putting a little gas straight intop the carb and still nothing. The rest of this post is assuming that your continuity tester is either a Multimeter, or a battery powered continuity light. The SEAT switch will certainly become a player when the PTO switch is engaged. We really appreciate any ideas, advice, suggestions or direction. 2 / Kohler Command PRO EFI. good point for killing an already running engine. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 53. 2) Disconnect negative (-) battery cable from battery. He had sent the following earlier this morning so I hope he is on track for some positive results. On the 5xi series, if the seat switch opens while the PTO is engaged, it takes the power off of the "kill relay" coil (K1), and shuts down the engine.  If a jiggle of the seat switch fixes the problem, you may have a bad connection in the connector going to the seat switch, a bad wire in this part of the harness, or a seat switch that is going bad.  The seat switch closes the circuit when you sit on the seat.  During normal operation with the PTO engaged cutting grass, if I lean too far off the seat to grab a fallen branch, the motor will start to shut down.  Likewise if you get off the seat with the PTO dis-engaged, and don't set the parking brake, the engine will shut down.  Big Brother is watching you!! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hate to disagree, but it is monitored, the same that year also. have your friend disconnect the kill wire from both coils and try again. Hello - Back again after hearing from my "fix-it" buddy. Interesting. Free shipping. On the 5xi, in order for the starter to engage, the seat switch must be made, and the parking brake must be set so that it's interlock switch is made as well.  If neither of these are made, you will not get the starter to crank.  Just as a point of reference, the original post in this thread is a situation where the engine cranks, but no spark.  An open safety interlock switch prevents the starter from cranking, so I think we that the safety interlocks are all working on buckhornbob's tractor. Also consider checking the condition of the battery and be certain the cranking rpms are above 550 {as stated MANY times in the service manual}  My 23hp verts refuse to fire if the battery cant spin them fast enough. It ran perfectly when I put it away for the season. Enter model number to search for the required part specific to your product. You are using an out of date browser. I'm assuming that if the SEE test does not produce a spark, the spark advance unit is required. After some scuffling I got the engine flywheel shrouding removed and exposed the 2 electronic ignition modules I disconnected the kill switch wire at the coil and still no joy. There doesn't seem to be any power at the second wire to the mag which comes from the spark advance unit. As I was placing the engine back into the frame, the oil temp sensor that is in the Oil Cooler hit the frame and the connector broke off (sensor is still in block). By looking at the diagram, if all wires are removed from the mags you should have spark. Those I have no experience with and will require more in depth investigation of their ignition module connections and functions. 2. Kohler command 14 with no spark. If you don't see a spark on the tester, there may be a problem with the ignition coil of the flywheel to which it's attached. IF the kill relay is NOT grounding the mag kill termnal, Then the SAM calculates a delay appropriate to the current RPM of the engine and sends an output signal on the BROWN wires to the mags. There is nothing more to the unit than the ignition coils (Gaps between coil and flywheel magnet should be.010) - HEAVY rust on the magnets can also cause a no spark … I have no way of testing the spark advancer and am not sure if the spark advancer is required to get a spark. $8.95 shipping. Do I have to find a shop with a Smart Spark tester - either 25 761 21 S  or 25 761 40 S. Can this test be done with the SAM completely removed from the tractor? I replace the ignition module and now both sides have a spark. google GARDNER INC ENTIRE STUDY GUIDE KOHLER, the link should download a technicians study guide which outlines complete theory and testing of the multi terminal magneto smart spark system. Common solutions for: Kohler Small engine won’t start. I disconnected the kill switch wire and still no spark. The gap is not ajustable by the instructions to the .012 gap with a feeler gage. I have the same problem with my Kohler. I would test the rectifier and recheck the battery. Going to redo the wiring and see if I can figure this thing out, it seems like a simple fix. The mags are self contained units and only need to "see" the magnet on the flywheel to produce a spark. Ending Jan 17 at 9:03AM PST ... (141) 141 product ratings - GENUINE OEM KOHLER PART # 24 584 45-S IGNITION COIL; KOHLER COMMAND ENGINES. I Mowed my lawn with it. Maybe they are not snapping on the plug tip. It is a pull start, (turn the key on and pull the recoil rope). Please help I have a Scag sw-48. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Battery Charging System. Checked for spark at the plugs - nothing. I recently had a problem with no spark on my Kohler 25hp. It may not be the cause of our problem but it's not right . (don't know about the 518xi ). I left the kill switch wire (narrow friction clip) off just in case it was shorting out somewhere. Recently picked up a NAMCO Express, with a 20hp Kohler Engine (I'm just about ready to slap my 24hp Honda in it). Click the Search Button to See More Results. progress, but only for 5 minutes. I wound like to put this thing back together soon but would like to know  if i need to do anything at the mags before I put them away under all the housing. In the event starting problems should occur which are not corrected by replacing the spark plugs, see your Kohler Engine Service Dealer for trouble analysis. I bought the engine already out of the machine for a repower project. Considered best of breed by many in the small engine trade, Kohlers are among the most reliable and innovative engines on the market. My friend consulted with a friend of his who runs a small engine shop and who said these Kohler Command engines can be a real challenge but that my friend had done everything he would recommend to narrow in on the problem. We have a 60 inch Hustler super Z. full commercial unit not a cheesy homeowner unit. A. I put the spark plug tester on and attached the spark plug, and grounded it... the spark plug tester lit up (dim) and no spark at the spark plug. Battery is good, how do you test the rectifier? I am hoping that someone with experience on these units might be able to point us in the right direction for testing the Spark Advance Module and/or figuring out if all the safety switches need to be in place or by-passed in order to make this work. The intermittent  power at the main fuse causes all 3 relays to make a clicking sound. The point is both mags are likely fired at the same time and if one mag is bad, the other should fire. If troubles persist after checking the possible causes listed or you are unable to identify the problem, call KOHLER Engines Customer Service at 1-800-544-2444 or contact your local KOHLER dealer. May 21, 2014 #1 . He got to the point of concluding that both coils may be the problem (a rare possibility but possible none-the-less) so I bought replacement coils - Oregon 33-518 - still nothing. I also put on new spark plugs at that time ,nothing. I've gone over all the information again that you sent me and it seems to come down to the Smart Spark unit or the kill switch relay . 01 - Spark Plug. Recently picked up a NAMCO Express, with a 20hp Kohler Engine (I'm just about ready to slap my 24hp Honda in it). I agree the SAM module is highly suspect. $18.99. May 21, 2014. Finally I got a bright light on the spark plug tester and grounded the sparkplug and got a white spark!! It's easy! You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. The SAM senses the engine RPM and introduces a delay to the 2nd "FIRE" terminal on the mag(s). Something is happening there but am not sure if the one with the yellow wire is working properly. Let us know how you corrected the problem. Under these conditions, the status of any safety switches should become irrelevant. I'm not sure if the physical length of the wires will prohibit interchanging them. If the primary voltage is lower than 12.6 volts you get weak spark and or no spark. p.s. Discussion in 'General Lawn Garden Tractor Forum' started by Bigboost, May 21, 2014. It sat for a couple years. If there is no spark, this indicates that the spark plug is defective and should be replaced. So, I wanted to check the spark plug, as I did start is a few months back but it died and would not start again with multiple tries. Any recommendations for best price on one of these? After my husband tried to adjust the coil / module, spark adv part # 24 584 63-s gap now he can get a weak spark from both of the spark plug wires. last fall I went through it and got it back to operating condition. Kohler Engines and Parts Store : Kohler Command Pro EFI - Misc Engines & Parts Shipping Option Tecumseh Engine Parts Denso Spark Plugs Oregon Equipment Parts AYP / Electrolux Zama Carburetors & Parts Walbro Carburetors & Parts Kawasaki Engine Parts Kohler Engines / Parts Tillotson Carburetors & Parts Stens Equipment Parts Warner Electric PTO Clutches Ogura Electric PTO … interestingly enough, the seat switch is ignored on the 98 models and is monitored on the 99+ year models. Maybe all of the safety switches have to be in place before the power even gets to the spark advance module to energize the coils. Change oil while engine is still warm from operation. I have similar occasional problem like this with my 520xi with a CH20 engine.  The engine dies when I turn on the PTO.  I just jiggle the seat switch and it goes away.  Seems simplistic, but you never know. NEVER APPLY 12 VOLTS TO THE KILL WIRE. Have you tested the voltage and continuity going to the coils? Add Kohler PRO Series fuel treatment or equivalent to fuel tank. I got the manual and sent a copy of the electrical portion to my buddy. Although the spark plug tester lights up, it seems dim. 0 bids. Not much will typically go wrong with a Kohler engine. By I ain't just talkin' to hear my head roar. 1. It is a pull start, (turn the key on and pull the recoil rope). What's wrong with my mower ? As the engine RPM increases, the SAM will gradually cut back on the delay it introduces and effectively advances the spark to the mags. Since all 3 relays are the same I'll switch them to see if I can get a spark. Run engine 2-3 minutes to get stabilized fuel into fuel system (failures due to untreated fuel are not warrantable). A 26 horsepower KOHLER Courage twin two 2 cylinder engine that WONT START won't RUN or backfires. :confusion-scratchheadblue:My only advice about electronics is obey the all knowing squirrel .You will be rewarded with a nice blue spark. Fuel Components Fuel Pump. I have never experimented with a Toro SAM but the operation theory remains the same. New Kohler 5258401 Ignition Coil Replacement. Ways to increase job ticket averages for 2021... General Carpet Cleaning & Upholstery Discussion. Spark Plugs. My fix-it buddy was able to report the following back to me: I got the fuse box electrical  to stop going on and off , then hooked everything up like it should be, no spark at either plug. To test the new coils, just mount them on the engine, set your air gap between the coil and the flywheel, remove the kill wire(s) and start cranking the engine. Knowing where to locate needed resources, and applying sound troubleshoo… By the diagram ground the mags is all any wire does. Back to the schematics to check for sure. last fall I went through it and got it back to operating condition. Kohler is currently unable to provide direct replacement components for the ASAM (analog spark advance module) 24 584 05-S, 2458405S and 24 584 09-S, 2458409S and of engine oil into cylinder(s). I'm going to switch the relay one more time and then we'll have to figure out how to test the other part. Parts lookup for Kohler power equipment is simpler than ever. If the tractor is turning over but has no spark here are a few things to check: First remove the blower housing. Just waiting patiently for my fix-it guy to let me know if I have to buy a SAM unit. Attached is the schematic for the 522xi.  Near the bottom of page 2 is relay K1, the kill relay.  If the kill relay is not energized, the engine will crank but not start.  There are three relays mounted on the firewall, one of which is K1.  K1 has a yellow wire going to it, and on my tractor the only relay with a yellow wire is the one to the far left if looking from the drivers seat.  I would try tapping this relay with a screw driver handle and see if it starts.  If no start, I would check for power on the relay coil when trying to start.Â, If there is anything you want me to take reading from on my 522xi let me know, I'm pretty good with a VOM.Â. High Pressure … Check the spark plug wire for cuts. we fired it up in the barn after sitting all winter moved it about 300 yards and turned the deck on(pto switch) mowed about 10 feet and it died.. we thought the battery was bad and we put in a new battery. I have come to the same conclusion as Save Old Iron, it is really looking like the SAM as long as the kill relay has been confirmed as ok.  If you have a Wheel Horse/Toro dealer in your area, I would give them a call and see if they can test the SAM.  The Kohler manual says that the SAM can be tested removed from the engine.  I have not been able to confirm if the oil pressure switch is tied into the SAM or not, but I would make sure that the crankcase has the correct oil level. Not sure if you and your friend have checked the kill relay on the tractor yet.  If you haven't, below will help you check the kill relay. So, once again I am asking for some guidance here. NEW GENUINE ORIGINAL KOHLER 12 584 02 IGNITION MODULE coil spark plug. Required Part. Then check at the ignition coil. Help please I have a Scag sw-48. If the engine produces no spark, it is not voltage related - this engine will have a Magneto ignition. 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