Whilst our spirits do not operate beyond our physical bodies in the material world, they do reach out ‘outside’ our physical bodies into the spiritual realm as we pray (2 Corinthians 10:4-5; Ephesians 6:18), and stand fast against the assaults of the Evil One by using the armour of God (Ephesians 6:10-18). Если же мы умерли для греха. Этим он хочет научить нас тому, что христианам всю свою жизнь надлежит стремиться к сему обновлению. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: we believe that we shall also live with him. There we learn that God, having raised Jesus up with an act of mighty power (Ephesians 1:19 onwards), has in the riches of His grace also made us alive in Him and has raised us up and seated us with Him in the spiritual realm (Ephesians 2:4-6). For if we roll again in our own filth, we deny Christ; of whom we cannot be the participators except through newness of life, inasmuch as he lives an incorruptible life. John 14:19; John 15:5; Hebrews 7:25. I saw a lovely field with not a single blemish on the virgin snow. "We hold it as an article of our faith, that we shall be alive with Christ." Ибо ежели возвращаемся мы к своим мерзостям, то отрицаемся Христа, участвовать в Котором не можем кроме как через обновление жизни, подобно тому, как и Сам Он ведет нетленную жизнь. Paul now turned from discussing the effect that our union with Christ has on our problem with sin ( Romans 6:6-7). Thus we learn from this that in our spirits we are already seated with Christ in heavenly places, operating there with Him, simply awaiting our resurrection body (Ephesians 2:6). To be dead to sin is to be so minded that the atmosphere of sin oppresses, distresses, and stifles us,—that it is painful and unnatural for us to remain in it. That the life here mentioned is the life after the resurrection, as in verse 5th, appears from the phraseology. To this some add the thought of eternal life, others apply the phrase to this exclusively. Lesson 44: Understanding the Unbelieving Mind (Romans 8:6-8) Related Media. Romans 6:8 f. Carrying onward the discussion by the metabatic δέ; and thereby passing from the negative side of the having died with Christ as proved in personal consciousness ( τοῦτο γινώσκοντες, Romans 6:6) in. Death is the result of sin. Romans 6:8-11, contain the application of the truth taught in the preceding passage: ‘If we are dead with Christ, we shall share in his life. In consequence, by positively reckoning on the fact that we have died with Him, we can now be free from sin’s grip and power. Instead, Romans 8:6-11 form a small part of a larger discourse Paul is having on the dichotomy between flesh and spirit. that our union with Christ is such that his death secures our deliverance from the penalty and power of sin, we believe we shall also live with him. So with His people. Romans 6:8. Sinners are but ploughing iniquity, sowing vanity, and reaping the same. Romans 6:8 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] Romans 6:8, NIV: "Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him." Hofmann, who makes a new sentence begin with εἰδότες, which is to continue till Romans 6:11, might have been warned against doing so by the absence of a particle ( οὖν); and should have been decisively precluded from it by the tortuous way in which, if Romans 6:10 is set aside in a parenthesis, it is necessary to obtain a forced regimen for the passage. He repeats this for no other end but that he might subjoin the explanation which follows, that Christ, having once risen, dies no more. Ибо ежели должны они являть собою образ Христов в умерщвлении плоти и духе жизни (Через оживотворение), а первое продолжается бесконечно, то и второе с необходимостью должно длиться вечно. Freedom from Sin; Life in God. θάνατος αὐτοῦ οὐκέτι κυρ.] Whosoever has died with Christ is now also of the belief that his life, i.e. in the contradiction of sinners against Himself, and bore it through Divine imputation as the Substitute of sinners, the Lamb of God. The expression refers to the end put to Christ’s connection with sin and our connection with it by death. Swindoll's New Testament Insights (Insights on Romans 6-8) ... all of which means you can read this book as a serious commentary on Romans or for general reading (rather than for study purposes etc). In my opinion, the Best All-Around commentary on Romans is the second edition of Douglas Moo’s 1996 commentary on Romans in the New International Commentary on the New Testament (Eerdmans, 2018). And we can live in newness of life (Romans 6:4; Romans 6:11). I am not lying. the positive active side of his moral being and nature, shall be a fellowship of life with the exalted Christ; that is, shall be able to be nothing else than this. This is both a symbolic and a real resurrection from the dead. And thus, having been freed from the condemnation of sin by our being ‘accounted as righteous’, sin has lost its hold on us. Не потому, что плоть в нас умирает в один миг, как было сказано выше, но потому, что не позволительно пятиться назад в ее умерщвлении. 8.But if we have died, etc. A Access (Romans 5:1-11) – The benefits of justification N New Adam (Romans 5:12-21) – We are children of two “Adams” S Struggle w/ Sin (Romans 6:1-8:39) Struggle, sanctification, and victory. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. The inference or conclusion, We shall also live with him; that is, We that have had fellowship with him in his death, shall have communion with him in his resurrection: We shall live with him a life of grace and glory, of regeneration and glorification, the one to newness of life, the other to everlasting life. If we are united mystically with Christ in his death, we shall certainly live with him, i.e., we shall certainly partake of his life. Dogmatic belief rather than trust, though the latter is not excluded. Reference: Romans 6:8.—Clergyman's Magazine, vol. Romans 8:6 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] Romans 8:6, NIV: "The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace." Romans 6:8 f. Carrying onward the discussion by the metabatic δέ; and thereby passing from the negative side of the having died with Christ as proved in personal consciousness (τοῦτο γινώσκοντες, Romans 6:6) in. But who are the persons that may be said to be dead with Christ? This book is written for those who hunger and thirst after righteousness. The death is viewed as an event, not as a state. Since the flesh does not submit to the Law, this is clear evidence that … Now if we be dead with Christ - If we be dead in a manner similar to what he was; if we are made dead to sin by his work, as he was dead in the grave; see the note at Romans 6:4. The perpetuity of the life of Christ is one of the points in which our life is to be conformed to his. a 2 How can we who died to sin yet live in it? Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, To report dead links, typos, or html errors or suggestions about making these resources more useful use the convenient, Baker Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology, Hastings' Dictionary of the New Testament, Watson's Biblical & Theological Dictionary, International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, we believe that we shall also live with him, Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him, if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also, "If" could be translated "Since" (first class condition in Greek that in this case represents a condition genuinely true to reality). As his life is perpetual, it secures the continued supplies of life to all his members. Dead we are with Christ by baptism, by His power and grace, and dead we must also be in the habits of our new life, in order that such Divine life may be continued in Him; and all this from the most intimate reference to Him. If we have fellowship with Christ in his death, we have reason to believe we shall have fellowship with him also in his resurrection and life: see Romans 6:5. This is both a symbolic and a real resurrection from the dead. This does not refer to the future world so much as to the present. Likewise reckon ye yourselves … alive unto God.’ In both the life is a resurrection life. How enlightening is the fact that, after all Paul had written of faith in preceding chapters, when it comes down to speaking of the Christian's justification and his hope of living eternally with Christ above, it is not faith which is mentioned, but dying with Christ. Now, if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him: Now — rather, since then — believers are one with Christ in His death, they have the certain prospect of for ever living with Him. Our having died with Him means that we need no longer live in the bondage of sin. A Liberating Commentary on Romans 6, 7 and 8. by. That we will also live with him. жить будем с Ним В широком смысле Павел имеет в виду, не только то, что верующие будут жить в присутствии Христа в вечности, но также и то, что все умершие со Христом (а это верно для всех верующих) будут здесь вести жизнь, которая полностью согласуется с Его святостью. Это повторяет он лишь с той целью, чтобы добавить следующее за этим утверждение: Христос, однажды воскреснув, более не умирает. suzao; only here, 2 Corinthians 7:3. Participation of the believer's sanctified life with the life of Christ rather than participation in future glory, which is not the point emphasized. (a) Of death. They die to its condemning power and its legal dominion, as thoroughly as if sin had slain them personally and the law had literally exacted its penalty from them. It brings home to us that as Christians we live in two realms. We shall have our Saviour's holiness fulfilled in us, and be able to love God without drawback or infirmity. Romans 6:8 The text exhibits a parallel between Christ’s literal death and resurrection and our spiritual death and resurrection, and not only a parallel, but also the real connection between them. A supposition, or presupposed condition; the thing supposed, is the baptized persons being dead with Christ; If we be dead with him, that is, by the exercise of daily mortification: If we have fellowship and communion with him in his death, that as he died for sin, we daily die unto sin: Then followeth, 2. I. J. H. Newman, Parochial and Plain Sermons, vol. The parallel.—Is one of death and life. Greek. Romans 6:6-7, to its positive side, which is likewise exhibited as based on the consciousness of faith (πιστεύομεν). So I want you to run around that cir… Other Forerunner Commentary entries containing Romans 6:8: Matthew 8:4 John 3:5 Galatians 4:7 Hebrews 9:27 Romans 6:7 : Romans 6:9 >> The Berean: Daily Verse and Comment Sign up for the Berean: Daily Verse and Comment, and have Biblical truth delivered to your inbox. Love is ever thinking of the object beloved; delights in acting with a view to it; to be likened to it; to cling to it; to become more and more one with it. Even those who in the end turn out to be saints and attain to life eternal, yet are not born saints, but have, with God's regenerating and renewing grace, to make themselves saints. 8. εἱδότες, ὅτι κ. τ. λ(1422)] Since we know, that, etc. However, the verses of this morning’s proper are probably less well-known than the soaring climax of this chapter in verses 8:31ff. They rise from the death which the law inflicts upon them when they die with Christ. The Christian dwells in continual contemplation on the Cross and death of Christ; it is there his heart and affections are fixed; it is there he finds a remedy against sin and strength against temptation. In like manner, since we die with him, we die as he died. And therefore if we have died with Christ, we know and believe that we will also ‘live with Him’, we will share in His resurrection life both now, enjoying newness of life (Romans 6:4), and in eternity. Therefore count yourself so and aspire after freedom from sin and life unto God. Romans 12:6-8 NIV We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. App-104). For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. This communion of life is the ἐν χριστῷ and χριστὸν ἐν ἡμῖν εἶναι. John Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible, Robertson's Word Pictures in the New Testament, Expository Notes with Practical Observations on the New Testament, Greek Testament Critical Exegetical Commentary, Heinrich Meyer's Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament, Johann Albrecht Bengel's Gnomon of the New Testament, Matthew Poole's English Annotations on the Holy Bible, Alexander MacLaren's Expositions of Holy Scripture, Justin Edwards' Family Bible New Testament, William Godbey's Commentary on the New Testament, Haldane's Exposition on the Epistle to the Romans and Hebrews, Schaff's Popular Commentary on the New Testament, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible - Unabridged, Hodge's Commentary on Romans, Ephesians and First Corintians. Planted in the likeness of His death, they are so also in the likeness of His resurrection, rise with Him to walk in newness of life. The next words show this to be the sense. Besides, the point is decided by the assertion, ‘we believe.’ It is a matter of faith, and not of present experience. With Christ (συν Χριστωι — sun Christōi). Romans 6:8 The text exhibits a parallel between Christ’s literal death and resurrection and our spiritual death and resurrection, and not only a parallel, but also the real connection between them. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. (2) A life of sin is unacceptable because our death to sin changes our relationship to sin. But before His death He had a certain real connection with sin which His death ended—a connection such that He could be tempted by sin, came in contact with it in its various forms among men, e.g. It has in mind not only future resurrection, but our present life in the Spirit. Participation of the believer's sanctified life with the life of Christ rather than participation in future glory, which is not the point emphasized. He proceeded to explain the effect that our union with Him has on our problem with death. It tends very much to the clearing of a truth, to observe how the Scripture is fulfilled in it. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: Dead with Christ — Conformed to his death, by dying to sin. The spiritual life of His people is as undying as His own: its vitality is unquenchable; death cannot hurt it, or end it, or have dominion over it. This verse, therefore, is introduced as the ground of the declaration, "we shall live with him," at the close of Romans 6:8. Even to the end the holiest men have remains and stains of sin which they would fain get rid of if they could, and which keep this life from being to them, in all God's grace, a heaven upon earth. Through His death and resurrection He has delivered us from ‘the house of bondage’, and from the slavery of sin, as we are accounted righteous and then share His resurrection life. Certainly … Rev., correctly, we died. Christ dieth no more. INTRODUCTION: GOD'S STANDARD . That is the glory of our new life in Christ. Paul returns to his main line of reasoning. Christ’s resurrection life is not one of inactive repose or passive communion with God, but one of holy service, ceaseless ministry, continual intercession ‘within the veil,’ government of the world, and perfecting of the Church. On the other hand, consider how pleasant a meal is to the hungry, or some enlivening odour to the faint; how refreshing the air is to the languid, or the brook to the weary and thirsty; and you will understand the sort of feeling which is implied in being alive with Christ, alive to religion, alive to the thought of heaven. This does not imply that faith is not required, but shows that faith consummated by baptism into the death of Christ is the determinator. The reference or joint-reference to the future glory is not required either by the future, which, on the contrary, demands the same rendering exactly as ἐσόμεθα in Romans 6:5, nor by πιστεύομεν (see above). That is, that the effect of his death is to destroy the power of sin; and the result of his living is the communication and preservation of Divine life to all who are connected with him. That is what ‘living with Him’ means while on earth. With Christ dwelling within us (Ephesians 3:17; John 14:23; Colossians 1:27), we must allow Him in His risen power to live out His life through us in this earth, whilst we also enjoy our experiences in the spiritual realm. Being dead He was free from sin and the sway which the law gave to the sin He bore. ‘Living with Him’ we are therefore to live as citizens of Heaven (Philippians 3:20) in partnership with Him (Romans 6:4; Romans 6:11; John 14:23; Galatians 2:20; Ephesians 3:17; Hebrews 2:10-11) as we await His coming (Philippians 3:20), because we have been transferred under the Kingly Rule of God’s beloved Son (Colossians 1:13). God’s *blessings for the *Jews 9:1-5. v1 I speak the truth in *Christ. It is nothing but the Cross of Christ without us and within us, which changes any one of us from being (as I may say) a devil, into an angel. Romans 8:6, KJV: "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace." vii., p. 179. Believers, [Note: E.g, Mounce, p152; and Cranfield, 1:312-13.]. Both live unto God. This section carries on the thought began in verses 4 and 5. To be alive is not merely to bear the thought of religion, to assent to the truth of religion, to wish to be religious, but to be drawn towards it, to love it, to delight in it, to obey it. That we shall also live with him - This does not refer primarily to the resurrection, and to the future state, but to the present. Scripture: Romans 6:14–19. Sin could no more condemn Him and bring Him to death, the penalty of the law, when by death He had exhausted the law’s penalty. The end of sin is death. 8.Dead with Christ—Dead to a world of sin, as Christ was dead to the world of external things. also live with = live also with. He rose again from the dead. πιστεύομεν] expresses, not confidence in the divine aid (Fritzsche), or in the divine promise (Baumgarten-Crusius), or in God not leaving His work of grace in us unfinished (Philippi); but simply the being convinced of our συζήσομεν αὐτῷ; in so far, namely, as the having died with Christ is, seeing that He has risen and dieth no more, in the consciousness of faith the necessary premiss, and thus the ground for belief as to our becoming alive with Him. In baptism, the burial in the liquid grave climaxes in EMERGING from the water. Comp 1 Corinthians 15:25. The Apostle now resumes his main thought. Such, therefore, is the subject of the Epistle for today (Sixth Sunday after Trinity). “But if we have died (according to Romans 6:6-7) with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, since we know,” etc. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die—but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Read Introduction to Romans . If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith; if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if … And this co-operation of course supposes a knowledge, knowledge of the way (Romans 6:6) and of the end (Romans 6:8). For a fuller outworking of the idea of ‘living with Him’ as the Risen One in the present age see Ephesians 2:1-10 where Paul reveals to us something of life in the spiritual realm. we believe that we shall also live with him; not only a life of justification by faith in his righteousness; and a life of sanctification from him, and to his glory; the continuance of which, and a perseverance in it, are firmly believed; but a life of glory and happiness with him hereafter, both in the new Jerusalem, in the new heavens, and new earth, in the glorious state of the church on earth, and in heaven to all eternity; where they shall be personally and visibly with him, in soul and body, and shall live in the most intimate and uninterrupted communion with him, enjoying the highest pleasure, and the most consummate happiness; and are therefore under the greatest obligation, whilst here on earth, to live, not in sin, but to righteousness, and to his praise and glory; with whom they are now dead to sin, and with whom they not only hope, but believe they shall live throughout the endless ages of eternity. 1. (Rom. 12:6-8). Nov 26, 2000. That this is the fact has been already stated, forming the underlying thought of Romans 6:3-6. I. This thought would only keep us aloof from that faith and make it a moral impossibility for us, since it would set before us the prospect of a similar perishing of the new life which we had gained. (b) Of life. I. And as we naturally become like that which we contemplate, it is to him an inexpressible satisfaction to reflect that by his very baptism and new birth he is himself there, dead with Christ and buried, in order that he might find in Him a better life; that the very strength and life of his baptism consists in his being thus made conformable to Christ's death. This does not imply any doubt about it, but is rather a taking it for granted: seeing we are dead with Christ by union with him, as our head and representative, and by communion with him in the benefits of his death, and being planted together in the likeness of it; or being dead to the law, sin, and the world, through the virtue and efficacy of Christ's death: we believe that we shall also live with him; not only a life of justification by faith in his righteousness; and a life of sanctification from him, and to his glory; the continuance of which, and a perseverance in it, are firmly believed; but a life of glory and happiness with him hereafter, both in the new Jerusalem, in the new heavens, and new earth, in the glorious state of the church on earth, and in heaven to all eternity; where they shall be personally and visibly with him, in soul and body, and shall live in the most intimate and uninterrupted communion with him, enjoying the highest pleasure, and the most consummate happiness; and are therefore under the greatest obligation, whilst here on earth, to live, not in sin, but to righteousness, and to his praise and glory; with whom they are now dead to sin, and with whom they not only hope, but believe they shall live throughout the endless ages of eternity. Only men seeking first the Kingdom of God and His goodness will be interested in these writings. Their ‘death unto sin’ is parallel to this. If the former, the ἀπεθάνομεν σὺν χριστῷ, be true, we cannot doubt the latter. We are to recognise that we are partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light (Colossians 1:12). II. As he lives, so we shall live in holiness. Romans 6:8 But if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him; we be dead with = we died together with (Greek. Romans 6:8. We cannot separate forgiveness of sin from the spiritual life of walking daily with the Lord.. if [since] we died . 8. All such as own the obligation which their baptismal vow and Christian profession puts upon them, and solemnly lays them under; namely, to keep the whole gospel, even as they who were circumcised were obliged to keep the whole law. The life of both is undying. It includes, therefore, all the consequences of redemption. Now, if we be dead with Christ, etc. 8 Now “Now” advances the argument. The connection.—This lies in the union between Christ and His people. We believe - All Christians. Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more, reckon ye yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, not in his own person, but in that of Christ, his Representative, Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. Romans 6:8 Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that … … III. sun. However some writers have taken this as referring to our life lived out here and now. George E. (Jed) Smock . 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: Ver. As God does in Genesis 3, the apostle threatens these Christians with God's utter abhorrence of sin and His unwavering promise to judge it.. Paul later illustrates this process of judgment to the Hebrews: The life here spoken of is that "eternal life" which believers are said to possess even in this world; see John 3:36, John 5:24; and which is manifested here by devotion to God, and hereafter in the purity and blessedness of heaven. In these verses, Paul continues his series of exhortations that deal with a Christian’s relationship to other Christians. Paul returns to his main line of reasoning. "Out of the strong comes forth sweetness," out of death life; and to resign earthly hopes, pleasures, and advantages does require that the heart hath found something better, the treasure of new affections which it values more. The Apostle speaks of it as a future life, which it is unnatural to interpret as signifying the believer’s spiritual life here, or as importing the continuation of it to the end of his course. Now (continuing the train of argument) if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also (the future as in Romans 6:5,—because the life with Him though here begun, is not here completed: and the πιστεύομεν used more of dogmatic belief, than of trust, though the latter meaning is not altogether absent) live with Him. Besides, we should expect, in the case of the assumed course of thought, an οὖν instead of the δέ in Romans 6:8. chap. The text exhibits a parallel between Christ’s literal death and resurrection and our spiritual death and resurrection, and not only a parallel, but also the real connection between them. Practical application.—‘Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ.’. It is therefore at baptism that this love is by the Holy Spirit planted within us; it is then that we are buried with Christ, in order that we may live with Him that life which is in God, in holy affections now and in fulness of joy hereafter. The *Holy Spirit … We shall live, συζήσομεν, the future, referring not to what is to happen hereafter, but to what is the certain consequence of our union with Christ. But γάρ in Romans 6:7 indicates its connection with what goes before, so that it is only with the δέ in Romans 6:8 that a new thought is introduced. But hereafter it will be otherwise. We believe, etc. We are not to consider the apostle as merely running a parallel between the natural death and resurrection of Christ, and the spiritual death and resurrection of his people, as has already been remarked, but as showing that, in consequence of union to him in his death, we must die as he died, and live as he lives. ‘Christ being raised from the dead, dieth no more, death hath no more dominion over Him … in that He liveth, He liveth unto God. I stopped the car, and I vaulted over the gate, and I ran around in a great big circle striding as wide as I could. Of course not! Compare Romans 6:11. Now, I suppose most persons called Christians do not go further than this—to wish to be religious, and to think it right to be religious, and to feel a respect for religious men; they do not get so far as to have any sort of love for religion. It seems best to accept a primary reference to sanctification, to ethical fellowship with Christ. Vow if we died with Christ. These may be said to be dead and crucified with Christ, having by the assistance of his Spirit, in some measure crucified the flesh with its inordinate affections and lusts; and if they here live like him, so they shall also live with him: Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. 1 Corinthians 15:54-57). Here physical resurrection is in view, as is clear from the future tense (cf. This description is, of course, using physical ideas in order to convey spiritual reality. And hereby he teaches us that newness of life is to be pursued by Christians as long as they live; for since they ought to represent in themselves an image of Christ, both by crucifying the flesh and by a spiritual life, it is necessary that the former should be done once for all, and that the latter should be carried on continually: not that the flesh, as we have already said, dies in us in a moment, but that we ought not to retrograde in the work of crucifying it. (a) To the believer. II. All Scriptures should be read and understood in the context of the surrounding verses. Believers have died with Christ. His original commentary quickly became a standard reference on Paul’s longest and most important… In his sermon, “Why Christ Had To Die,” author and pastor Stuart Briscoe says: Many years ago when the children were small, we went for a little drive in the lovely English countryside, and there was some fresh snow. To be dead to sin is to feel a disgust at it. But this love, as being contrary to our corrupted nature, must be forcibly sustained by doing violence to ourselves, and by all outward means; by frequent communion with Him in prayer and meditation, by giving of alms and active charities, and more especially by a frequent participation of His body and blood. Then I came back to the kids, and I said, “Now, children, I want you to follow in my footsteps. 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